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Podcast – Sustainability Talks – Rethinking ESG: A Conversation with Pavan Sukhdev

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“Today’s externalities are tomorrow’s risks, and the day after’s losses.”

In the new episode of ETF Partners’ Sustainability Talks, GIST Impact CEO Pavan Sukhdev speaks candidly with Zoë VanderWolk about what’s broken in ESG, and what comes next.

Topics include:

  • The “pig’s breakfast” of ESG ratings
  • Why positive externalities must be accounted for
  • Frameworks vs. metrics – and why getting the framework right is step zero
  • How firms create direct and indirect impacts on nature
  • Why true sustainability means positive impacts across all four capitals

A must-listen for investors, analysts, and sustainability leaders tired of complexity and hungry for substance.